Is Phase Really Needed for Weakly-Supervised Dereverberation ?

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Authors Marius Rodrigues, Louis Bahrman, Roland Badeau, Gaรซl Richard arXiv ID 2511.17346 Category cs.SD: Sound Cross-listed cs.AI, eess.SP, physics.class-ph, stat.ML Citations 0 Venue arXiv.org Last Checked 4 months ago
Abstract
In unsupervised or weakly-supervised approaches for speech dereverberation, the target clean (dry) signals are considered to be unknown during training. In that context, evaluating to what extent information can be retrieved from the sole knowledge of reverberant (wet) speech becomes critical. This work investigates the role of the reverberant (wet) phase in the time-frequency domain. Based on Statistical Wave Field Theory, we show that late reverberation perturbs phase components with white, uniformly distributed noise, except at low frequencies. Consequently, the wet phase carries limited useful information and is not essential for weakly supervised dereverberation. To validate this finding, we train dereverberation models under a recent weak supervision framework and demonstrate that performance can be significantly improved by excluding the reverberant phase from the loss function.
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